Ladders

Almost Any Ability top 500

Name Elo GXE Glicko-1
1baumrr1600 89.2% 1900 ± 47
2nano3451597 89.3% 1903 ± 44
3Laxpras1574 89.9% 1914 ± 45
4arkeis1560 92.2% 1973 ± 65
5geerat1540 85.9% 1844 ± 57
6Tach1537 81.5% 1780 ± 33
7Quantum Tesseract1522 90.2% 1930 ± 86
8etaphs1505 82.6% 1796 ± 45
9Glyx1502 89.7% 1917 ± 79
10Whitephoenixace21500 84.5% 1824 ± 61
11CLC5 Enak Ngetroll1500 (more games needed)
12Lord of Scoundrels1500 85.9% 1847 ± 73
13motherhate1500 (more games needed)
14Aku Mau Ngetroll1500 (more games needed)
15tys fan club1500 (more games needed)
16dog in the woods1500 85.7% 1849 ± 96
17plena1500 80.3% 1768 ± 66
18whom is this1500 82.9% 1802 ± 70
19Eggxecutor1500 83.3% 1806 ± 56
20Cookiekins1500 86.4% 1851 ± 56
21CastingTryhards1500 (more games needed)
22urisen1500 79.6% 1764 ± 83
23this dude1499 87.8% 1880 ± 79
24MrMeme41499 (more games needed)
25oblivion guy1499 81.3% 1784 ± 82
26Terran 11499 86.9% 1863 ± 72
27Popocita1499 81.5% 1786 ± 82
28CLC motherhate1499 (more games needed)
29ben12341499 83.7% 1811 ± 53
30Altaria Motives ®1499 (more games needed)
31pioloo1499 82.1% 1793 ± 76
32Nezhmetdinov1499 83.2% 1809 ± 79
33StallAAA†1499 (more games needed)
34Caquita OP1499 87.4% 1874 ± 79
35SirM1me1499 (more games needed)
36Vo1taire ☁1499 (more games needed)
37icy as can be1499 83.5% 1814 ± 86
38aesf1499 87.4% 1873 ± 78
39Lcass49191495 83.4% 1811 ± 73
40Natu worry1491 (more games needed)
41Schizoguy1488 (more games needed)
42UndefeatedAAA1486 (more games needed)
43TheCoastsOfToast1486 78.0% 1744 ± 74
44drew4671484 83.4% 1812 ± 87
45Baguette Americana1480 (more games needed)
46Dmick OM1479 83.2% 1803 ± 50
47beatty1478 82.5% 1795 ± 55
48CLC 7 Mcnulty1478 (more games needed)
49d3xtra ladder1473 81.4% 1785 ± 76
50Semako1472 83.4% 1806 ± 45
51notamazhou1471 (more games needed)
52caen1471 76.3% 1724 ± 72
53sam i yam1470 77.8% 1740 ± 60
54Anancites1469 82.3% 1796 ± 76
55Klang1469 (more games needed)
56kimbofromlimbo1469 (more games needed)
57inspectorgogoat1466 (more games needed)
58Young K!ller1464 80.0% 1764 ± 56
59Rednter1456 78.1% 1743 ± 64
601337 Legend ワタル1455 (more games needed)
61Gimlegara1455 82.8% 1799 ± 50
62aesffs1453 (more games needed)
63tttft31453 83.8% 1814 ± 67
64Jumpbled Jargon1448 82.4% 1799 ± 87
65Alexander Alekhine1446 81.9% 1792 ± 81
66Jeran1445 80.7% 1779 ± 99
67420 Blazikens1445 (more games needed)
68Need hax to win1444 77.1% 1733 ± 74
69RichardPepper1443 80.2% 1768 ± 65
700.5mm1441 80.0% 1769 ± 88
71GaryAjax1441 84.3% 1828 ± 97
72another bro1436 80.8% 1781 ± 95
73Vert1go1436 80.0% 1764 ± 56
74SysCom660971433 80.2% 1768 ± 70
75l2p loser1432 (more games needed)
76nyan kat ☁1432 (more games needed)
77LaxLapras1431 (more games needed)
78The Majin1429 (more games needed)
79clc5 racool1427 (more games needed)
80verbigeration1426 (more games needed)
81x8y101424 (more games needed)
82ScorrchingTheaph1424 80.4% 1771 ± 71
83HeavyMetalThunder☁1423 82.6% 1805 ± 100
84ever haxed1421 80.0% 1769 ± 91
853f3kf31421 (more games needed)
86Knights of Tys1420 83.2% 1809 ± 78
87CLC Laxpras1420 (more games needed)
88JupiterDewpider1418 80.5% 1777 ± 95
89Save AAA1417 81.0% 1780 ± 83
90Beebuyah1417 78.3% 1744 ± 49
91Saxophone Sableye1417 79.2% 1760 ± 92
92youmu@poke発狂中1416 (more games needed)
93AAA Demon1415 79.1% 1754 ± 62
94CLC Fardin1414 (more games needed)
95ampharoshe1413 78.9% 1759 ± 100
96itskimbo1413 69.3% 1653 ± 26
97dmick road to 16001412 75.7% 1721 ± 91
98yMustay1412 76.9% 1732 ± 74
99Lady Saint1411 78.9% 1755 ± 81
100BreachingTrout1411 81.2% 1780 ± 66
101Mohican1410 82.0% 1788 ± 55
102MrMime41410 (more games needed)
103superstar641409 80.4% 1772 ± 79
104Herculez1406 77.2% 1738 ± 95
105CLC5 Tech1405 (more games needed)
106TorterraLove1405 (more games needed)
107fysyj1404 (more games needed)
108Jodolf Stitler1403 (more games needed)
109LeRandy1403 83.0% 1803 ± 59
110DaRandy1401 80.4% 1774 ± 89
111JolteonX31401 78.8% 1749 ± 48
112ObscurePokemonYT1401 (more games needed)
113Rage.Spam.Quit.1401 (more games needed)
114AndromedaWarrior1401 78.2% 1746 ± 74
115turtletime991400 76.8% 1729 ± 68
116Get hype u plonker1400 (more games needed)
117D Rodman1400 81.3% 1785 ± 91
118london131400 81.0% 1776 ± 59
119rbllohia1399 77.3% 1736 ± 77
120blankuser0001399 78.6% 1746 ± 46
121more entropy1399 (more games needed)
122The Cheesen One1399 (more games needed)
123TreysName1399 77.2% 1733 ± 61
124lonestar12341399 77.4% 1738 ± 81
125mmwmmwmmwmmw1396 77.9% 1746 ± 95
126OctbeamX1396 (more games needed)
127Nyobak1396 (more games needed)
128BlizzardWizard-7771395 81.4% 1789 ± 99
129RNG is Happy1394 73.1% 1693 ± 76
130Laxpras VII1394 (more games needed)
131Virginia != Virgin1394 (more games needed)
132fruitylad451391 79.9% 1769 ± 94
133HoundoomsdayDevice1391 74.2% 1701 ± 55
134Matiss981390 (more games needed)
135mohicahn1389 81.3% 1785 ± 89
136I noob good1389 (more games needed)
137Chipotle mayo1389 (more games needed)
138thatsalad1389 78.0% 1745 ± 89
139gIA(@_@)gAntIC1388 (more games needed)
140son of harambe1388 (more games needed)
141horribIe1388 (more games needed)
142FardinAG1387 (more games needed)
143Ninetalesrash1387 69.6% 1659 ± 74
144ultimatehologram1387 (more games needed)
145Gatsu1386 75.0% 1714 ± 95
146XDFZDX1386 77.3% 1737 ± 78
147Mr. OMPL1385 (more games needed)
148Hardbodied Egg1384 (more games needed)
149lumaalre1384 72.5% 1687 ± 73
150wanna get bripped1384 79.7% 1764 ± 80
151seohaine1383 71.9% 1680 ± 68
152TheAnnoyingSableye1383 (more games needed)
153asdffdsaasdf1383 (more games needed)
154Sopo Jarwo1383 (more games needed)
155CLC-221383 (more games needed)
156Frnen1382 (more games needed)
157DotCommand96461380 (more games needed)
158memer espeon1379 (more games needed)
159Liufang Monster1378 78.1% 1747 ± 90
160BernadetteChirac1378 71.7% 1680 ± 83
161AllFunny1378 79.7% 1766 ± 89
162wfuu1377 (more games needed)
163Isaac881376 70.0% 1661 ± 51
164Failures¨̮1376 (more games needed)
165Elyna1376 77.4% 1736 ± 75
166Little CuackT1376 75.5% 1719 ± 92
167uroc1375 77.6% 1741 ± 85
168Ranger Perro1375 (more games needed)
169BlazyGamerFCPorto1375 77.2% 1737 ± 91
170Test Team 17381373 75.6% 1720 ± 93
171jrdn1373 81.6% 1784 ± 54
172vae341372 (more games needed)
173betathunder1372 79.0% 1759 ± 96
174RoamingScizor1371 78.4% 1749 ± 81
175spacecake1371 75.4% 1713 ± 57
176p-porcupine ☁1370 75.2% 1716 ± 89
177CLCAkuMauNgetroll1370 (more games needed)
178fadecourpse1370 72.2% 1685 ± 83
179ikenumaster1370 (more games needed)
180SUNKERNglory1370 (more games needed)
181another champion1369 78.3% 1751 ± 98
182Fanieleschifo1367 71.6% 1677 ± 68
183trippy trappy ☁1367 (more games needed)
184nightning1367 (more games needed)
185Bellicose Breloom1367 (more games needed)
186WHY NOT SIS1366 (more games needed)
187Serrak1365 (more games needed)
188rAAAcool1365 80.2% 1774 ± 98
189VaatiMan921365 72.8% 1688 ± 60
190Bulatix1365 72.6% 1687 ± 73
191Tilman1365 75.0% 1714 ± 90
192thesecondbest1365 72.8% 1688 ± 66
193juanjal1363 68.9% 1652 ± 69
194Ancientt1363 74.5% 1704 ± 53
195multibandit1363 76.1% 1722 ± 73
196Towerdepths1363 69.8% 1658 ± 42
197LuxioBro1363 (more games needed)
198F 4 N1362 72.9% 1692 ± 84
199The Ruby Kitty1362 (more games needed)
200Durzzza1362 75.3% 1718 ± 99
201supertrollman1362 80.1% 1770 ± 84
202Max Rayder1361 72.8% 1689 ± 71
203incognitalt1361 (more games needed)
204colibri1781361 75.5% 1713 ± 46
205kumo 31360 73.9% 1701 ± 80
206Mambroeru1360 (more games needed)
207okaythen1360 81.3% 1787 ± 97
208jean-mielleux1359 77.2% 1733 ± 67
20913 beaches1359 77.1% 1731 ± 50
210bwahahaha1358 (more games needed)
211MedLey1358 (more games needed)
212Attidude1358 (more games needed)
213Ducebaleno1358 (more games needed)
214Bug Meteor1358 77.5% 1741 ± 96
215derper1358 73.1% 1692 ± 72
216Kaolak1357 75.6% 1719 ± 84
217another uberman1357 74.4% 1708 ± 97
218HeaVEnJay1357 76.3% 1729 ± 96
219DerRandy1357 (more games needed)
220Little CuackAAA1356 (more games needed)
221Alolan Laxpras1356 (more games needed)
222VraichuPK1356 76.2% 1725 ± 82
223CharizardKid20021355 74.7% 1706 ± 50
224Infinityslayer81355 72.7% 1689 ± 85
225vanished existence1355 75.4% 1716 ± 77
226MaxBazooka1354 72.7% 1687 ± 67
227whyd you do this1354 80.5% 1775 ± 87
228Gwenevere ☁1353 76.3% 1725 ± 74
229Horsea Whisperer1353 76.2% 1726 ± 87
230racool1352 80.2% 1767 ± 64
231Groudon-Speed1352 (more games needed)
232Qubn1352 (more games needed)
233stone evil1352 75.4% 1713 ± 52
234JLi1231352 (more games needed)
235sevara1352 72.6% 1686 ± 55
236skeeet skeeet1351 (more games needed)
237Capt. Pigeon1351 73.8% 1697 ± 54
238Feel No Way1351 (more games needed)
239Ngetroll1351 (more games needed)
240McGee vs Perkins1350 75.3% 1718 ± 100
241sciencepanda1350 (more games needed)
242Angry Furret1350 (more games needed)
243redoscar1349 68.1% 1644 ± 57
244yard sard1348 70.0% 1665 ± 92
245janzimann1347 71.7% 1678 ± 68
246TheMightyGliscorYT1346 (more games needed)
247UnleashThis..BITCH1346 74.3% 1707 ± 95
248Hoon Z1346 71.6% 1679 ± 87
249pickletrash1346 71.1% 1672 ± 61
250Funbot281346 75.1% 1711 ± 61
251MetaMenace1345 (more games needed)
252Spudoshi1345 74.6% 1708 ± 80
253niko971344 73.9% 1701 ± 84
254NewYorkDicksuckers1344 (more games needed)
255Chrus is nub1344 (more games needed)
256DxDBreaker1344 69.5% 1658 ± 70
257Endal1344 74.5% 1706 ± 80
258IceBeam131343 67.5% 1640 ± 62
259BarboachBoiis1343 73.1% 1691 ± 70
260Nirvada20001343 73.2% 1694 ± 77
261ImBadInMonotype1342 (more games needed)
262Little Cuack1342 74.3% 1703 ± 62
263CLCwoCommonSense1341 (more games needed)
264Mark K1341 74.3% 1706 ± 89
265drasfer061341 78.9% 1753 ± 64
266Ashlynnx1341 (more games needed)
267Pagoose1340 (more games needed)
268ToothlessHydreigon1340 (more games needed)
269Espada ownz1340 (more games needed)
270Emperor1340 72.4% 1689 ± 95
271Leadcone1011339 (more games needed)
272SDLgang1339 72.4% 1685 ± 62
273Shistonyo1339 77.1% 1729 ± 28
274Blisseybeast1339 72.5% 1682 ± 30
275Elitetrainershawn1339 77.7% 1740 ± 68
276slimfitgenes1338 61.8% 1592 ± 68
277spily1338 70.2% 1667 ± 91
278lonestar1231338 (more games needed)
279FinalBeginner1338 (more games needed)
280FardinAAA1338 (more games needed)
281joseluismurcia1337 73.3% 1695 ± 84
282BokaST1337 (more games needed)
283Megaskys1337 73.6% 1695 ± 55
284Sorm1336 66.3% 1631 ± 87
285doodleman9991336 73.5% 1697 ± 77
286ddog10311335 (more games needed)
287eryweryeryt1335 (more games needed)
288Patriek1335 (more games needed)
2890rland01335 79.1% 1757 ± 81
290Rea-TheStampede1335 74.6% 1709 ± 85
291yraf1335 69.0% 1653 ± 66
292asasw1335 (more games needed)
293zRedqueen1334 (more games needed)
294cristo bastardo1334 (more games needed)
295CoolTrainerMoffatt1334 59.3% 1573 ± 72
296Chloe1333 76.8% 1732 ± 88
297Dzibilchaltun1333 (more games needed)
298theeloisa1333 71.9% 1682 ± 85
299Mrs. Popo1333 77.2% 1737 ± 93
300alsozatch1332 74.2% 1700 ± 45
301greek gosh1332 (more games needed)
302Radiki1332 70.8% 1672 ± 86
303Trollinator1332 70.5% 1667 ± 63
304Big~air1331 (more games needed)
30530LHC1331 80.2% 1769 ± 76
306fuegin too hard1331 (more games needed)
307TheGameAce1331 71.3% 1674 ± 66
308AM I ME c1331 77.0% 1734 ± 89
309Samspark★♥★1331 (more games needed)
310Vaporhan4life1331 70.2% 1666 ± 83
311DTMSGH1330 74.3% 1705 ± 85
312Ldkdbdbd1330 (more games needed)
313Rotom421330 (more games needed)
314ach271330 72.2% 1684 ± 80
315S•Arcobaleno1330 72.2% 1685 ± 85
316ODISHrevenge1330 78.5% 1753 ± 99
317im bothered1330 (more games needed)
318Teslataters1329 (more games needed)
319Enjoy Free Points1329 73.3% 1696 ± 91
320Remmub1329 69.9% 1664 ± 93
321Master of 0z1329 71.5% 1680 ± 96
322Count Sheep1329 (more games needed)
323IVLXCCDXIMVD1329 (more games needed)
324PalmarDeCoco1329 69.5% 1658 ± 64
325Bulk Clinton1328 68.9% 1653 ± 70
326Isotonex†1328 (more games needed)
327AllFunny v21328 (more games needed)
328Rosa crushes AAA1328 (more games needed)
329grkejbgrjgbrkre1328 (more games needed)
330CLC assign.dragons1328 (more games needed)
331M3ggo1328 72.8% 1689 ± 77
332MrSchrubelhupf1327 70.2% 1665 ± 68
333Official Fissure1327 74.8% 1713 ± 100
334PepeDuce1327 (more games needed)
335AAA Tester 11327 (more games needed)
336BlackScizor841327 72.4% 1682 ± 32
337Makatuk1327 (more games needed)
338Fall to Pieces1326 73.3% 1696 ± 88
339step aside butch1326 76.7% 1730 ± 80
340AdmiralTrapbar1326 73.1% 1695 ± 96
341gastro1325 (more games needed)
342Speeding1325 (more games needed)
343Dorflord1325 (more games needed)
344LorisMasta171325 77.4% 1735 ± 65
345eugenethegreat1325 (more games needed)
346fd231325 (more games needed)
347Crrs ☯1325 (more games needed)
348pinsircut1325 67.0% 1636 ± 62
349Raphael27111325 (more games needed)
350luplayer1324 (more games needed)
351Luster Stone1324 67.0% 1635 ± 54
352Plasmagby1324 78.4% 1750 ± 91
353dsnow1324 (more games needed)
354DaKinG37161323 (more games needed)
355ModernKids1323 76.7% 1732 ± 91
356Mystical_Hoopa1323 63.3% 1603 ± 54
357AS I LAY DYING 21323 (more games needed)
358anonogtest1323 58.4% 1566 ± 97
359foggot1323 (more games needed)
360sumwun els1323 76.0% 1723 ± 83
361Anno-CLC1323 (more games needed)
362paraconf-Z1322 (more games needed)
363How Nerdy1322 (more games needed)
364alnlef21322 72.8% 1691 ± 86
365kioto25mr1322 71.0% 1672 ± 80
366UG851322 63.0% 1601 ± 59
367VLK-Chan1322 (more games needed)
368ElRandy1321 (more games needed)
369FlowSupersonic1321 (more games needed)
370Pixel & Nasal1321 (more games needed)
371Sandro201321 (more games needed)
372Guardsweeper1321 72.5% 1685 ± 59
373Raijinto1321 (more games needed)
3743z pz br33zy1321 74.3% 1708 ± 96
375DarkAngeallenq.q1320 73.3% 1695 ± 83
376elmostar21320 73.5% 1698 ± 91
377Tony631320 70.8% 1670 ± 67
378fatcatfatfish1320 (more games needed)
379ProgressiveNote1320 70.5% 1667 ± 69
380Garlikid1319 (more games needed)
381Air infinity1319 (more games needed)
382slabu1319 (more games needed)
383Le Denis1319 76.9% 1731 ± 69
384drunknbaby1318 (more games needed)
385I'm Tommy1318 68.0% 1645 ± 69
386Cmj7551318 73.9% 1703 ± 91
387thetom431318 (more games needed)
388actualScum1317 (more games needed)
389Percobaan1317 (more games needed)
390Joaq331317 64.1% 1611 ± 61
391Ninja Gaiden1317 (more games needed)
392ace 4341316 (more games needed)
393deathlift1316 73.0% 1691 ± 75
394Alejandro almada1315 (more games needed)
395eardemon1315 (more games needed)
396Ultimate Nintendo1315 (more games needed)
397DeinoRage1315 (more games needed)
398Zen lops1315 (more games needed)
399noob69noob1315 72.4% 1688 ± 93
400Gioval1315 (more games needed)
401B-rad7771314 (more games needed)
402stemitchell911314 68.3% 1646 ± 62
403Sutol ujair1314 74.0% 1704 ± 90
404dejejr1313 (more games needed)
405CLC Zephyr1313 (more games needed)
406memomiguel1313 74.7% 1708 ± 70
407Monochromes1313 73.4% 1691 ± 26
408pity_regret_gloom1313 62.3% 1597 ± 86
409wuhoodude1313 66.5% 1633 ± 85
410fuyfu1313 (more games needed)
411Into_The_Jungle1313 (more games needed)
412gorex1312 76.7% 1727 ± 53
413fezahr1312 67.6% 1640 ± 61
414Hanss031312 59.0% 1570 ± 74
415Moxie Sanctos1312 65.9% 1627 ± 85
416CLC Echo Gaia1311 (more games needed)
417michews1311 77.4% 1735 ± 64
418Fuladono1311 (more games needed)
419hello Everybody1311 (more games needed)
420hamhamhamham1311 (more games needed)
421Who1309 75.4% 1717 ± 84
422marisoru1309 72.8% 1688 ± 59
423Mutavac1309 (more games needed)
424SickLiepard1309 72.7% 1686 ± 61
425labine1309 69.8% 1661 ± 76
426Jaajgko1308 72.7% 1687 ± 64
427Ritik Dhawan1308 75.9% 1723 ± 93
428Sylveo Plath1308 (more games needed)
429sumwun1307 73.7% 1700 ± 90
430MtM81307 (more games needed)
4310-7bap1307 75.6% 1718 ± 84
432GimmickAlwaysWin1307 70.1% 1663 ± 68
433Noob King1307 (more games needed)
434Whide1307 73.1% 1693 ± 81
435Snuffie1307 66.8% 1634 ± 73
436Willy for the win1307 75.5% 1718 ± 86
437Lyra99191306 63.3% 1604 ± 66
438Yesman Say No1306 (more games needed)
439The False God1306 (more games needed)
440Heat&BeatyaMeat1306 (more games needed)
441gsgsgsgs1306 68.7% 1649 ± 47
442King Harlaus1306 (more games needed)
443Governo Sombra1305 (more games needed)
444sexy NEET1305 67.8% 1644 ± 74
445BlackDragonSlayer1305 (more games needed)
446Ilovesandwiches1305 (more games needed)
447amazhou1305 74.3% 1707 ± 97
448jubbie1305 (more games needed)
449Gigapichu❀1305 (more games needed)
450dsfgsd41305 (more games needed)
451SoloJugarYoloDavid1305 73.5% 1699 ± 97
452Scyther1304 (more games needed)
453Omicron Persei 81304 (more games needed)
454Elfirestuffy1304 68.3% 1645 ± 36
455Ry~~ota Mit~~arai1304 73.7% 1694 ± 28
456Ndeso1303 (more games needed)
457peanut oil1303 78.6% 1753 ± 91
458Caasi1303 (more games needed)
459JIggy YT1303 (more games needed)
460adolf castro1303 (more games needed)
461ShinySatan1303 59.8% 1576 ± 83
462Ghostly Guy1303 63.6% 1608 ± 83
463comdisde1302 71.0% 1673 ± 82
464RNG Is Cancer1301 (more games needed)
465Briks1301 68.0% 1647 ± 93
466TesttingNHK221301 73.0% 1693 ± 87
467Knsr1301 (more games needed)
468Zokoba1301 64.8% 1619 ± 100
469megashadowlugia*1301 56.9% 1553 ± 48
470a20491300 65.2% 1618 ± 26
471blackstormer1300 (more games needed)
472Blazy#Venezuela1300 69.1% 1656 ± 88
473Fulham1299 (more games needed)
474wolvenom1299 (more games needed)
475Risingfromtheashes1299 71.8% 1681 ± 84
476SANS IS NASS1299 (more games needed)
477Broslass1299 76.3% 1729 ± 96
478borja blanco1299 57.4% 1557 ± 61
479afkgiaaa1298 (more games needed)
480MAMP1298 77.3% 1739 ± 94
481Kazuo Tengan1298 72.6% 1690 ± 93
482SormHail1298 61.7% 1592 ± 89
483iRaimon1298 (more games needed)
484Gimlaf1298 (more games needed)
485thefermanat0r1298 (more games needed)
486Umbricox1298 64.8% 1618 ± 80
487Alcaliros1297 71.0% 1672 ± 75
488jasprose♥1297 (more games needed)
489a banword1297 (more games needed)
490pradhaaan✿公主1297 (more games needed)
491clc darksylvion1297 (more games needed)
492banned Tatu1297 (more games needed)
493pattycakess5551297 74.3% 1700 ± 40
494Soloryo1297 70.5% 1670 ± 93
495gdf f gdgdrgrgr1297 (more games needed)
496Potted Red Flower!1296 76.8% 1733 ± 93
497Bungggg1296 69.8% 1663 ± 85
498MickyMouser1296 (more games needed)
499flapjack hero1296 70.9% 1670 ± 57
500patatasverdesrojas1296 (more games needed)