celever wrote:By the way, now that we have Mandibuzz in NU Sawk is even worse.
252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Mandibuzz: 298-352 (70.44 - 83.21%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Great counter bro.
Who in this day and age is using ADAMANT BANDED Sawk? I mean seriously? If you're using Ban go Jolly at least, going banded and adamant is basically asking yourself to get outsped and killed. also you're only running 8 def on Mandibuzz? looks like you're wasting a lot of great defense potential bro, I mean base 105 defense is great especially with Mandibuzz's level of HP.
Now back to the whole counters thing, lets assume that the Sawk is banded and since you seem to be running adamant for some reason lets also put that in to see max damage output reasons and lets see the calcs:252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Scolipede: 86-102 (32.82 - 38.93%) -- 99.76% chance to 3HKO252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Stone Edge vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Musharna: 32.33 - 38.1%252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Eviolite Misdreavus: 36.11 - 42.59%252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Duosion: 37.72 - 44.61%252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 40.84 - 48.64%
Oh what's that? I Put in Scolipede? Now please hold your arguments and let me explain that: In this age of NU scolipede is one of THE best pokemon in the tier especially since nearly nothing can counter it that means Sawk can't either. I'm just assuming CC since that's what the average player is bound to spam with Sawk anyways so we have a total of 5 possible checks/counters, tbh Scolipede can only beat it when it's CC or ice punch(252 Atk Scolipede Earthquake vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Sawk: 160-189 (54.98 - 64.94%) -- guaranteed 2HKO) and considering that the bulky offensive spiker set is not too scarce in usage it can counter Sawk if played right.
Don't believe that those up there can beat banded Sawk which in turn means they can most likely beat scarf Sawk? HERE ARE SOME CALCS:252+ Atk Scolipede Megahorn vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Sawk: 157-186 (53.95 - 63.91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO0 SpA Tangela Giga Drain vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Sawk: 153-181 (52.57 - 62.19%) -- guaranteed 2HKO4 SpA Duosion Psychic vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Sawk: 446-528 (153.26 - 181.44%) -- guaranteed OHKO0 SpA Musharna Psychic vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Sawk: 390-462 (134.02 - 158.76%) -- guaranteed OHKO0 SpA Misdreavus Shadow Ball vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Sawk: 144-169 (49.48 - 58.07%) -- 98.44% chance to 2HKO